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Okay. I recently resigned with MK and have been attending the meetings most of the time. I work 3 jobs and I told my director when I resigned that I would have to do this my own way and at my own pace due to my current work situation. She said thats fine.
Now, when I go to the meetings my director does the usual big talk about how wonderful it is to be in MK and you can do it and all the usual stuff, and she always looks directly at me when she is talking. I am starting to feel a little uncomforable. There are a couple of women in there who had $1,000 weeks and I am glad for them but right now I don't have the time to put that much effort in to my MK business. Not yet. I feel like my director is trying to make me feel bad because of the looks she gives me.
Now I am wondering why I even rejoined at all. I haven't sold anything yet but that's okay. I will at some point in time. I am okay with my way of doing MK but I don't think my director likes it.
Just needed to whine. thanks for listening.
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« Reply #1 on: April 13, 2008, 08:53:49 PM » |
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See that's exactly what I don't get about women who say they want to do MK their way, it's not possible. MK is set up to have someone on your case ALL the time, to guilt you into ordering, to make you feel like a failure if you don't do what everyone else is supposedly doing!!!!!!! MLM's SUCK! Nothing personal CB, but you are going to feel uncomfortable every time you see your director, she is always going to bug you, because if you aren't ordering or recruiting, she is losing money, so you will never really be able to do MK "your way". If you had already been in MK, you know that!!!!! MK products are not worth all that! Infact my skin is getting better the longer I'm away from it!!!!! 
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« Reply #2 on: April 13, 2008, 11:59:14 PM » |
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Hiya, noobie!  Welcome to the Lighthouse... Yep, those meetings were annoying -- and I was one of the women who did the $1000 weeks in the beginning, and I felt so uncomfortable being used as something for everyone else to attain... I was so confused as to why the women who had been in a year or two never sold anything -- then I hit my 4 month mark and saw why!! We do have some current consultants on this board who can give you some advice about dealing with your director if you want to sell mk, but WWIT is right -- she wants you ORDERING, ORDERING, ORDERING. And some recruiting too... You are welcome to whine as much as you wanna... 
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« Reply #3 on: April 14, 2008, 12:01:48 PM » |
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Don't they tout "FREE" training? If it's free, why do you have to pay $5? 
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« Reply #4 on: April 14, 2008, 09:56:39 PM » |
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WWIT - Man are you right about someone "on your case"! My best friend got married this weekend - of course I did the makeup for the rehearsal and wedding. My DIQ (& recruiter) called today & wanted to know how much I sold? NADA - matter of fact, my gift was the MK gifts my friend gave to the other attendants!
Who cares how much you sell at a friends wedding? I WAS NOT WORKING MK! I was having a BLAST!
If you want to do MK your way, stay away from the meetings!
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« Reply #5 on: April 15, 2008, 06:25:42 PM » |
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Thank you all for listening and for your honest opinions and advice. I had forgotten how dishonest some people (directors) can be. I did not go to the freaking meeting again tonight - OMG two meetings in a row I have missed!!!! and whatwasIthinking, you are right. She is losing out on me and is going to make sure I know it. I am starting to think I shouldn't have come back. Well, I can still get out. the meetings seem to pull me down instead up pep me up and encourage me. Whatever.... I gotta do what I gotta do right now and that is work the jobs that I know will pay me every week. Thanks everyone!!
Did you all used to be MK consultants?? Or are some still active consultants?
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« Reply #6 on: April 15, 2008, 08:25:35 PM » |
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I'm still (currently) active, trying to move some stuff. I've been in 1 yr - and have made a BUNCH of cc debt! I like "doing" the business but I like my hobby of eating & sleeping under a roof MUCH better!
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« Reply #7 on: April 15, 2008, 08:53:23 PM » |
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I'm an ex consultant. Happy to be out! Welcome CB  , sorry to have sounded so cranky, MK has the tendency to do that to me! 
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« Reply #8 on: April 19, 2008, 03:32:54 PM » |
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Don't they tout "FREE" training? If it's free, why do you have to pay $5? When I was new in MK I wondered the same thing. The directors were always telling us what a deal the "free training" was. So, I wondered, why am I paying $3.00 every time I go to weekly meetings. The answer is that you are paying for the directors' expenses. We had several that met in one large building. Our $3.00 a week paid for the rent of the building. Lovely. Welcome to the board carolbrigid!
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« Reply #9 on: April 19, 2008, 03:48:06 PM » |
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I agree that if you are not getting anything out of the meetings, then don't go, however, they are valuable for seeing new products, receiving new information and getting ideas from other consultants.
I also wanted to clear something up that was stated above. "if you aren't ordering or recruiting, she is losing money". This is not true. The director is not MAKING any money if you do not order, but she is not LOSING money. It's a wash. She is going to have the meeting whether you are there or not. It does not cost her anything if you do not order.
I am an active consultant, have a large business and have been associated with MK for over 20 years. I know how it works! So for what it's worth, I would encourage you to speak to your director (privately, not standing up in the meeting) and telling her that you are in this for part-time money (or whatever your reasons were) and you are going to go at your own pace. Should your goals and desires change in the future, you will be glad to let her know to find out what the next step should be to move up. It is possible she is not "looking" at you in a derogatory way, and perhaps you are feeling a bit guilty when others are being recognized and you know you haven't gotten your business quite off the ground yet. It's possible it is a misunderstanding on one part or the other.
Whatever decision you make, good luck with your Mary Kay.
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« Reply #10 on: April 19, 2008, 04:20:41 PM » |
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The director is not MAKING any money if you do not order, but she is not LOSING money. Really? Does the director have a Mary Kay car? Then if you don't order she will potentially lose money if she can't get enough orders to cover her car lease payment. What about the cost of the meetings? If the director is charging consultants to cover rent, etc, then you bet she's losing money if someone isn't there. It does not cost her anything if you do not order. Let me say this as politely as possible..... BA - LONEY! It costs her big time. No consultant, no guests. No guests, no potential victims new recruits. No new recruits, no unit. No unit, no income. If it didn't matter if consultants went to training or not, if it didn't have an effect on directors, then they wouldn't have the stupid meetings in the first place. The whole point of the meeting is to keep you JAZZED about Mary Kay. Yes, you can see new products and yes, if you're in sales, you need to know your products. Yes, you can get ideas for how to unload all the Mary Kay they convinced you was a good idea to front load, and since it's sales, it's always good to have ideas and learn how to sell. I would encourage you to speak to your director (privately, not standing up in the meeting) and telling her that you are in this for part-time money (or whatever your reasons were) and you are going to go at your own pace. Should your goals and desires change in the future, you will be glad to let her know to find out what the next step should be to move up. An I will make a bet that once you do that, you will NEVER hear from your director again. Until around June 15th of next year, when, if she is still a director, she will need you to order so she can (keep her car, keep her unit, keep her husband.....fill in the blank)
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« Reply #11 on: April 19, 2008, 04:59:10 PM » |
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LJ, hold your horses! No need to be so....um.....intense!
It isn't clear to me if the director in question is this lady's recruiter, but either way she is not losing money if CB doesn't order. She hasn't ordered yet so she is not losing production if she continues to not order. And the meetings are for the benefit of the consultants. If the consultant doesn't want to go and gets nothing from the meeting, then she shouldn't go. If she wants to attend, but feels that there is some issue, the issue needs to be addressed. I am all for being above board and putting the cards on the table.
I know many directors who don't even hold weekly meetings for one reason or another. Well, in the spirit of full disclosure, I should amend that statement to say "several" and not "many". There are a variety of reasons but mostly it is because the director's unit members are not local enough to attend on a weekly basis. A couple of directors do quarterly meetings to go over new products and have quarterly recognition. It is whatever works for the individuals.
I also failed to mention that CB could consider going to another meeting and being an adoptee.
In regard to the statement "I will make a bet that once you do that, you will NEVER hear from your director again"--isn't that what you all continually say you want?
I stand firm that the people who follow the marketing plan as it was designed do not need to frontload anybody. The ones that do not follow it or "frontload" as you call it, will not be successful long term.
LJ, you know me--I don't live in a fog. I'm honest and above board, and know this business works if done ethically and honestly and right.
No director's income depends on one consultant who is working three other jobs and hasn't ordered since re-signing to become a part-time consultant and hasn't sold anything. And she is not losing money if this lady doesn't come to the meeting and doesn't order.
CB, would you have ever brought a guest to a meeting even if you did feel comfortable?
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« Reply #12 on: April 19, 2008, 05:52:02 PM » |
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Ahem, Psst, Realistic, your pink is showing! Darlin' of course a director loses money if a consultant doesn't order! Duh! My director bought massive prizes and other crap to entice us, where do you think that money comes from? Also even as a consultant, when your customers don't order YOU lose money! In Mary Kay, nothing is a wash, YOU always lose money! I guess you are so used to the pink fog, that you don't realize you are in it? LJ, do you know her personally? 
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« Reply #13 on: April 19, 2008, 08:16:24 PM » |
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Yikes....things are getting tense in this thread!  I personally hated paying for "free training" too! Also, I am thrilled with my decision to end my MK career....Hee, hee, hee if you could even call it a career! Muuhahahaaa!  So very happy there are NO meetings in my future!   to all!
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« Reply #14 on: April 20, 2008, 08:41:39 AM » |
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My SD holds bi-weekly meetings (2 hrs each way) at the DIQ's home (no fees!) This month's challenge was 20 faces + $600 order for a flat wallet - I saw them on a wholesale site for $ 10! (I'll buy me one if I want it!)
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