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« on: December 29, 2006, 02:12:27 PM »

I just got a new customer on my Mary Kay personal website. She is one that I met a craft fair where I had a booth. This is my second order from that booth, so it has more than paid for itself now. I did nothing to follow up with these women, they came to me. I know a lot of women on here (and PT) feel that you just can't make money in Mary Kay. But I have had good sales, I "attract instead of attack", and even as I am phasing out, I still have people coming to me for the product. For me the question of whether or not you can make money in Mary Kay is not so cut and dry. And ultimately, the potential to make money in MK is not the deciding factor of whether or not to stay in. I am indeed phasing out, and I'm doing it on principal. But it does make it a little tempting to stay in when I get these sweet little orders. *sigh* Anyone else have similar struggles?
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« Reply #1 on: December 29, 2006, 02:32:35 PM »

Well it's obvious that some people do make money in this business. But it's what they teach you that I have the problem with. Talk to everyone you meet as they are potiential customers blah blah blah. Sick I'm still active. I still have some very good customers. I too have the debate with myself get out completely or stay and do my own small thing? What's wrong with growing a business slowly and with good morals and ethics behind it? I don't want the pressure from people "above me" that will make money off my success. These same people love and really care about me? No, they care about the all mighty dollar.  So my answer to your question is "Yes" I think you can make small money, but it won't be a get rich quick thing and you will have to be very patient. I'm still trying to figure out how much patience I have! wink
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« Reply #2 on: December 29, 2006, 03:51:13 PM »

Contrary to what others on here think I do think you can make money, I did.  But, some have said you really don't because you are buying all the other crap.  PCP, section 2 and so on. 

So, I say don't buy all the other crap!  I made money and I didn't do PCP and I didn't buy tons of other crap.  I hardly ever got section 2 items. 

I just sold to people who wanted the product and made money.  I wouldn't say I would have kept doing it for a living but, when I needed a few extra bucks I would sell the product and have some money.  I also made quite a bit just before I went on my vacation (with my family to CA) we went last May.  I had the extra money to have fun with and enjoy life for almost 5 days.


In the end you have to do what is best for you, what works for you! 

Follow you HEART and you can't go wrong!!

I hope this helps you!!
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« Reply #3 on: December 30, 2006, 12:32:30 PM »

*sigh*

This question has just plagued us all at one time or another.  I just don't believe that you can.  I think the longer you are in, you either buy the spin from the company and think that you are actually making money because you believe in what you're doing, or you realize that you have become the company's customer and begin to understand that their number one objective is to not help you become successful, but to help you to hang onto the hope of success. 

This sounds bitter, I know, but this is really what I believe.

If you want to be completely objective, then you absolutely MUST look at your time/income/expenses.  Yes, a $200 sale seems like great money, but how often do you have those kinds of sales?  How many calls did you have to make?  How many hours did you spend in your business the week you had that great sale?

One time I went through my sales for 3 years and averaged them out.  I wanted to know my average sale per face.  My average was $40 per face.  I then looked at how many people I sold to, and it was just appalling.  I am hunting down the exact number, so I'll post that as soon as I find it on my computer...A $600 week is an amazing thing, but only if it happens consistently.

I think the majority of people who believe they are making money in Mary Kay are not really looking at what they are actually doing.  That is in my opinion the ONLY way you can know if you're making money in Mary Kay.  twocents
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« Reply #4 on: December 31, 2006, 12:55:31 AM »

FreefromMK, I think you're prolly right. I never have been very good at really adding up all the costs of doing MK. It just feels good to get an order, I guess. *sigh*
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« Reply #5 on: December 31, 2006, 08:04:38 AM »

Yeah, I'm there with ya!  I'll never forget how happy I was when I was selling the product.  It made me feel like it was ALL working!  I think that's part of the allure, and I know it's why it's celebrated at meetings so much! :party  I just love these guys!  I hope we can keep them UYC!
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« Reply #6 on: December 31, 2006, 02:10:14 PM »

I agree with each comment here...
And I have realized that there is serious money to be made in MK...especially if you are at NSD level.
My NSD spoke recently at a fall retreat and actually told us she had noticed that we were spending way too much money on sec. 2 stuff. That we should carefully limit our sec.2 purchases because those items were not profit-making. At the time, I thought to myself that maybe I had misjudged her...that she might actually be concerned about ME and my business.
At the same time, I wondered how I could run my biz without the samples, etc. that I got from sec.2, since usually, the first thing a new customer asks me is for a sample.
Now, I see...what was happening was that my sec.2 purchases cut into HER bottom line, not necessarily mine.
(I feel the need for a lightbulb emoticon right about now. I'm having an AHA moment...)

I feel so dumb sometimes, that I believed she was actually concerned about me, a lowly consultant, from way up there on her pink throne.
I just trust and trust, especially when they use that personality profile thingy to manipulate me. Oh, I'm a sucker alright...and they are sooooo good at it, aren't they?
BUT...I have spent literally HOURS reading the postings here and see that it is the way the game is played throughout the MK world. I haven't had some of the nasty experiences that many of you have had. Thankfully, I have an SD with a conscious who really, I think, tries to do her best by us. But I look at some of the other directors in my area and do not have the desire to become one of them. I see the crazed look they get in their eyes towards the end of the month or whenever NSD throws out some new unit challenge.
I am so thankful I found the PinkLighthouse...at least now my eyes are opened and I can continue to make my own decisions about how I deal with my customers with a renewed belief that I actually can make a difference in their lives by not trying to recruit them.
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« Reply #7 on: December 31, 2006, 02:29:11 PM »

I think the best way to tell if you are making any money is to look at your taxes from this last year.  After you deduct all of your expenses, see how much you really made.  Then figure the time you put into it and see how much your hourly wage really was.
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« Reply #8 on: December 31, 2006, 08:06:53 PM »

I think the best way to tell if you are making any money is to look at your taxes from this last year.  After you deduct all of your expenses, see how much you really made.  Then figure the time you put into it and see how much your hourly wage really was.

that is a great way to explain it. I never thought of it that way before.
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« Reply #9 on: January 07, 2007, 07:08:27 AM »

SOP-I think you will always be digging out of a hole. From the very start you have spent 100.00. You start out in the RED by 100.00. And you can't even sell those things! Then you order product. You are out by a BARE MINIMUM 200.00. So you are in the RED by 300.00 just to get active. (Oops, don't forget taxes, double your local rate, on that 200, and shipping!). It is my experience and personal opinion that you will always be spending to make, and that makes you profit level minimal, MAYBE 10% of the retail price....
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« Reply #10 on: January 07, 2007, 09:47:42 AM »

Wow Sadie, that makes a lot of sense...and d'ya know I came in with a $3600 inventory package...*gulp*
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« Reply #11 on: April 08, 2007, 02:37:56 PM »

Gals -I have a couple 'Personal Use' tricks for you. I started 20 years
ago (June 1987) and we had those Pink Cases. But we had 'sampler
tubes' of skin care, foundation,loose powder, fragrances (the big ticket
item-I still have my last Belara sample -full size cost $7). My best friend was my recruiter-we started together but our consultant didn't
make DIQ so I ended up in the original unit. We decided to finish with
our regular skin care then only buy sample tubes at $1, $2 & $2.50 each and fill up our used skin care bottles. Now you are stuck with regular line products for skin care classes or expensive samplers.
I did find that you can cut costs for yourself using our old plan.
2 sets of sample Day/Night Solution will more than fill up your personal
bottles. Do NOT take a $30 product off your shelves if you can pay
$4 or $5 for a bottle refill be openning foil packets. I think cutting open each foil packet is theraputic also! Now I find that the Eye Firming Cream using 2 sample sets(cost $2.50) fills up a Eye Soothing
gel jar just fine (or any similar jar from the dollar store) Also the new
Targeted Line Reduer pen -Do not take that $40 product from inventory. 2 sample sets also fit in an Eye Soothing Gel jar nicely(cost
$3.00) See what else you can do with Sec 2 samplers for your personal
use. I do the same with the TimeWise Skin care packets. I only use
regular line Skin care inventory when the bottles look bad-about every
3 years. That may help some of you spend less on yourself by pulling
$20, $30 and $40 products off the shelf! And don't order lots of those
until customers want them!
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« Reply #12 on: April 08, 2007, 09:25:40 PM »

Active...great suggestion...plus (correct me if I'm wrong) you are not charged double tax on Sec 2 items!
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« Reply #13 on: April 09, 2007, 06:33:42 AM »

That's right you aren't paying tax on a retail product. If you gals aren't aware of the tax write off-you can write off unrecovered sales tax for
personal use and hostess gifts on your taxes. But then again I am a 'hobby' consultant and do not use MK as a business expense. Maybe
that is the boat we are all in?
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« Reply #14 on: April 09, 2007, 06:49:18 AM »

I don't want to speak for everyone else here but as for me, I'm no longer active and do not like how the company operates therefore choose not to be a consultant any longer. I do like the product but am currently searching for something with less chemical that works as well or better.......

Glad to hear this experience has been a positive one for you! Unfortunately a lot of people around here have had quite the opposite experience!
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