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« on: November 13, 2006, 12:28:37 PM » |
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Okay, so I've been looking forward to this craft fair that I go to each year. It's of a decent size, but crafters have been dwindling each year. It was this weekend, and I went yesterday. I found some unique and quality stuff - barely - because THIS is what has become of craft fairs:
Pampered Chef Tupperware Homemade Gourmet Tastefully Simple Creative Memories Usborne Books Arbonne (are you kidding???) Discovery Toys
I think there were a few more, but I didn't venture anywhere near their tables lest I have to speak to one of the MLM-bots working it. Oddly enough, no MK table was present, which there always is. There are less and less legitimate crafters with unique and quality items, and more of this TOTAL CRAP, which I just can't get away from!
And it makes me mad all over that these companies are preying on all these women, and they just don't want to hear the truth. I was annoyed, so just wanted to vent that.
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« Reply #1 on: November 13, 2006, 12:33:45 PM » |
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Vent away, that's what we are here for.  It's like that around here. All the small craft fairs are few crafts and mostly MLM booths. Silpata (or however you spell it) is getting big around here. It's $$. I've seen several fairs where a Silpata person has hosted other MLM companies.
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« Reply #2 on: November 13, 2006, 12:35:40 PM » |
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that is just sad. Remember the good ole days when you didn't even know what MLM stood for???
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« Reply #3 on: November 13, 2006, 12:37:08 PM » |
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You have to be kidding, right?? Â  I thought that craft fairs were just that -- crafts. I would have probably gone into shock seeing all those SCAMS in one place. Sick Sick Sick Sick Sick Sick Sick Sick Sick PB&J -- Ahhhh... Those were the good old days, huh? MLM? What's that?
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« Reply #4 on: November 13, 2006, 12:54:03 PM » |
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My coworker is thinking of doing Silpada! I was shocked at their prices!! Who is buying it?! It's expensive!!!! faint
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« Reply #5 on: November 13, 2006, 12:57:16 PM » |
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I couldn't agree with you more!
I was part of a craft fair last year, where I was selling my HANDMADE jewelry, and there was MK, Premier Designs, The Body Shop, Pampered Chef, Cookie Lee, Arbonne. . . I was just flabbergasted they were even allowed in! Those aren't crafts, they are "crafty," but not crafts. . . I actually approached a couple of them and told them they shouldn't be there, especially the MK gal because that's against the contract and they didn't seem to care. That was the last craft fair I was a part of, and I don't plan on being in any in the future because I refuse to mingle with that sort of culture.
And yes Sassy, Silpada is way overpriced. I know the price of sterling, because of my jewelry making connections, and I am just shocked at their prices!
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« Reply #6 on: November 13, 2006, 02:12:06 PM » |
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Oh yeah, Cookie Lee was there, which looked like such crap compared to the legit jewelry makers there.
I'm assuming Silpata is a jewelry MLM?
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« Reply #7 on: November 13, 2006, 02:26:36 PM » |
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Oh yeah, Cookie Lee was there, which looked like such crap compared to the legit jewelry makers there.
I'm assuming Silpata is a jewelry MLM?
That is my biggest problem with Cookie Lee: that with the prices they charge, you'd expect a better product. But for factory-made, fashion jewelry, you get stuff that looks like it came from Claire's. And yes, Silpada is sterling silver only, but the same sort of thinking as other MLMs. They work very similar to Cookie Lee in that you don't carry inventory, but you work your way up the ladder with new recruits. http://silpada.com/businessOpportunity/index.jsp
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« Reply #8 on: November 13, 2006, 10:49:02 PM » |
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There is this Silpada lady that has been harassing me for almost 2 years. I barely know her but she calls and emails all the time. All I did was buy a pair of earrings from her at a networking event. Then she bought a grand of my "real" business services. Now she won't leave me alone.
That is what I HATE the most about mlms. When you are at a REAL business to business networking event and there are a bunch of mlmers! Granted, I get some of their business, but then they try to make me feel obligated to host a party. No, wait THAT is what I HATE the most about mlms.
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« Reply #9 on: November 14, 2006, 12:07:54 AM » |
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MLM's not only invade Craft Fairs and Networking Events, but recently I was at a JOB FAIR and in attendance at Booths was Mary Kay, Arbonne, Primerica (same concept), AVON and Pampered Chef. Of course they were handing out cute little bags of samples and their marketing crap to all the young women trying to find legitimate JOBS. I wanted to PUKE ~ if I only could have ran around snatching back all the Marketing Crap on them and told the people who took that "Hey, you are going to need 3 jobs to pay back the debt you will get yourself into with these MLMs...." They are EVERYWHERE nowadays. ARGHHHH! Boo
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« Reply #10 on: November 14, 2006, 09:32:39 AM » |
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And you know, nobody wants to hear how much they suck! We're just negative nellies who couldn't make it work. The job fair thing would REALLY burn my butt, but I know they do it. I used to work for my college's career office when I was in school, and after I was doing MK, one of the ladies there called and asked if I wanted a booth at the job fair, to which I said no. Though deep in the fog then, I didn't want to mess with barely out of college girls with no money, and friends with no money. But they called to ASK me if I wanted the booth! I'd love to have a short informational brochure with facts about MLMs and how dangerous they are, with info directing people to all the places on the internet they can get info (which sadly aren't many). Even when you go to Amazon, type in Multi-Level Marketing, and you'll get hundreds of PRO-MLM books pop up! It's sick and twisted. There are very few anti-MLM books out there, and all but two had to be self-published by the authors, I'm assuming because publishers didn't want to do it - back to no one wanted to read that these things don't work I guess. Sigh... 
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« Reply #11 on: November 14, 2006, 01:32:50 PM » |
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Baroness, EXACTLY! I have thought about this so much since I got out, and have come to the conclusion that Mary Kay is built on the myth of meritocracy. It's so sad that so many women are led to believe that if they just work hard enough, they'll get ahead!
Okay, here's the Myth defined. We studied it in a Diversity in Education class last term. Very Relevant, I think:
"According to the ideology of the American Dream, America is the land of limitless opportunity in which individuals can go as far as their own merit takes them. According to this ideology, you get out of the system what you put into it. Getting ahead is ostensibly based on individual merit, which is generally viewed as a combination of factors including innate abilities, working hard, having the right attitude, and having high moral character and integrity. Americans not only tend to think that is how the system should work, but most Americans also think that is how the system does work (Huber and Form 1973, Kluegel and Smith 1986, Ladd 1994). "
It's a very interesting concept, and maybe the sociologists could contribute here...we KNOW that the distribution of wealth in America does not reflect the abilities or hard work of many people! This sounds eerily like the Mary Kay system, where only 2% of consultants make directorship, and how many to national?? It's just unfair, and it's so sad to see women get sucked into it.
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« Reply #12 on: November 14, 2006, 01:56:54 PM » |
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Oh this is awesome Free! I had forgotten about studying it, but it's very true that we like to believe that hard work and solid planning will be the path to ultimate success, when in reality that's not how it is. Some of the hardest workers I know are people who struggle to pay their bills. And we all know what happens to best laid plans. I think it's part of the American Dream, if you work hard and are a good person, you'll be rewarded, but that simply is not reality. It's very sad because the most deserving people are not always the ones who get the rewards. Mary Kay is absolutely based on this belief, but it, like the American Dream, is not going to happen to most of the population.
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« Reply #13 on: November 14, 2006, 01:59:24 PM » |
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Oh this is awesome Free! I had forgotten about studying it, but it's very true that we like to believe that hard work and solid planning will be the path to ultimate success, when in reality that's not how it is. Some of the hardest workers I know are people who struggle to pay their bills. And we all know what happens to best laid plans. I think it's part of the American Dream, if you work hard and are a good person, you'll be rewarded, but that simply is not reality. It's very sad because the most deserving people are not always the ones who get the rewards. Mary Kay is absolutely based on this belief, but it, like the American Dream, is not going to happen to most of the population.
how true!!
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« Reply #14 on: November 14, 2006, 04:37:28 PM » |
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Thanks Free and Mlle for articulating that point...
So true, so very true.
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