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« Reply #15 on: September 11, 2006, 05:24:05 PM »

I fell for it because I needed and wanted a way to MAKE extra money when I needed it.  i am a teacher and it is a fixed salary, with no way to make extra money when needed.  unlike other professions, I can't work overtime.  so I saw Mk as a way to make extra money.  I was told MK is easy to sell and that the product was popular.  Also I liked the recognition/attention.   groan.  Boy, did my director tale advantage of that weakness of mine.  I went into sooooooooooooo much debt. Boo.   How funny, I did not make money, I lost money.  Thinking about it now, I feel soooooooooo stupid. crying

And I must say that ordering mk is like an addiction.  I look back now and say, why did I place that order?  Can anyone relate?   I mean really, there were times where I would make sure to budget my paycheck so i could place that Mary kay order, even though I did not sell or did not need the product.  I mean, I was really living in a fog.
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« Reply #16 on: September 11, 2006, 08:45:06 PM »

We signed up because what was presented to us seemed like a sound concept - the marketing info and the products that just 'fly off the shelves' ...  Sick

What makes us smart is that we made an even bigger decision - the decision to step out of the pink fog of denial and into reality and move on with life! 

It's easy to sign the 'pink form' and pay $100.

It's hard to walk away from it thousands of dollars later, because you have to admit that somewhere along the way you were wrong or got duped or both. 

A hard decision, but smart.
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« Reply #17 on: September 11, 2006, 09:51:07 PM »

That is soooooooooooo true, ponderingpink.  Let me tell you, I went through some serious battling with myself when I saw the light and am still battling myself because I have not sent back the stuff to the company.  But I am happy that i don't have to tell lies to "victims" or listen to the director and nsd's lies.  I used to look up to both of those women but now I have no respect at all for them and wonder how I ever saw them as role models and believed them. ???
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« Reply #18 on: September 11, 2006, 09:54:44 PM »

That is soooooooooooo true, ponderingpink.  Let me tell you, I went through some serious battling with myself when I saw the light and am still battling myself because I have not sent back the stuff to the company.  But I am happy that i don't have to tell lies to "victims" or listen to the director and nsd's lies.  I used to look up to both of those women but now I have no respect at all for them and wonder how I ever saw them as role models and believed them. ???

I haven't sent mine back yet.  There's so little of it left, in spite of the huge credit card debt - and at least I bought stuff that mostly I use.  But I still have some things that will probably end up on ebay eventually.

Don't battle yourself any longer.  Trust your gut, and keep moving 'into the light...'
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« Reply #19 on: November 11, 2006, 03:00:27 PM »

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If we're so smart, why did we fall for it in the first place?

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Oh, wow.....thanks for rubbing it in   wink  Acutally, I ask myself that ALLL the time.  In retrospect, there was a part of me that thought the hype was too good to be true all along.  Being in college for as long as I have been and the student loans associated with all tat edjumucation made the prospect of a few extra $$$ every month very inticing. 
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« Reply #20 on: December 13, 2006, 10:33:54 AM »

Sassy Canadian - I hope this helps in your struggles with frustration with "falling" for the lies.

I have said it before, even (if not especially) intelligent women feel the need to succeed and be independant.  The DISC program that MK uses is specifically designed to appeal to each of our "weakness" persay...the things that push our buttons.  Know that you are not alone in your struggles.  And KNOW that you did not FAIL at anything!  Your MK experience brought you here, which is part of God's plan for you!

 globemn  Merry Christmas!!

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« Reply #21 on: December 13, 2006, 03:00:53 PM »

Sassy Canadian - I hope this helps in your struggles with frustration with "falling" for the lies.

I have said it before, even (if not especially) intelligent women feel the need to succeed and be independant.  The DISC program that MK uses is specifically designed to appeal to each of our "weakness" persay...the things that push our buttons.  Know that you are not alone in your struggles.  And KNOW that you did not FAIL at anything!  Your MK experience brought you here, which is part of God's plan for you!

 globemn  Merry Christmas!!

Love  Jyp

Jypsi,
            Thanks for the link it really helps! My reason? I joined purely to purchase my own products at half price, two months later I had the $1800 starter pack and felt a need to sell it to keep my accountant husband happy and the family out of the red. Well as you and many other know that didn't exactly work! I handed out flyers in my neighbourhood...now some of the neighbours see me coming and run the other way like I might try to sell them something. I'd like to get a big sign and put it on my front lawn NO LONGER A PINK DRONE! Now I'm going to have to work 8-10 extra 12hr shifts just to pay off my pink debt! groan

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« Reply #22 on: December 26, 2006, 08:58:22 AM »

I started MK most of all so I wouldn't have to pay full price for products.  Then I wanted to make a few dollars to help out with our bills.  I have been a SAHM for about 5 years and my self esteem had taken a beating.  I have always worked and I felt worthless at times because I didn't work.  So I fell for the, "be your own boss."  They are masters at manipulation.  They find out your strengths and weaknesses and phrase the opportunity to match up with whatever is the void in your life.  Once I started I actually thought I could do MK in an ethical manner.  I did a star order and felt so stressed trying to make money.  I would actually be sitting in church and my mind would wander from the preacher.  I would look around and try to figure out who I could unload some makeup on.  Then I would say a little prayer asking for forgiveness and try to focus on the lesson.  I am so glad that I don't have to look at every woman as a means to unload makeup.  I have found that people are friendlier with me because they know that I am out of MK. 

So MK was supposed to boost my self esteem and help me not to feel depressed.  But MK made me more depressed.  I would get depressed because I wasn't retaining 80% of my customers, and that my customers were not ordering every 3 months like they said they would.  I reordered products based on these lies and in the end had too much on my shelves.  I love their lie about, "every no is getting closer to a yes."  At first I tried warm chattering hell and that is awful.  And you can't blame the public on how they treat a MK consultant because MK is not what it seems to be. 
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« Reply #23 on: December 27, 2006, 10:42:34 PM »

I started MK most of all so I wouldn't have to pay full price for products.  Then I wanted to make a few dollars to help out with our bills.  I have been a SAHM for about 5 years and my self esteem had taken a beating.  I have always worked and I felt worthless at times because I didn't work.  So I fell for the, "be your own boss."  They are masters at manipulation.  They find out your strengths and weaknesses and phrase the opportunity to match up with whatever is the void in your life.  Once I started I actually thought I could do MK in an ethical manner.  I did a star order and felt so stressed trying to make money.  I would actually be sitting in church and my mind would wander from the preacher.  I would look around and try to figure out who I could unload some makeup on.  Then I would say a little prayer asking for forgiveness and try to focus on the lesson.  I am so glad that I don't have to look at every woman as a means to unload makeup.  I have found that people are friendlier with me because they know that I am out of MK. 

So MK was supposed to boost my self esteem and help me not to feel depressed.  But MK made me more depressed.  I would get depressed because I wasn't retaining 80% of my customers, and that my customers were not ordering every 3 months like they said they would.  I reordered products based on these lies and in the end had too much on my shelves.  I love their lie about, "every no is getting closer to a yes."  At first I tried warm chattering hell and that is awful.  And you can't blame the public on how they treat a MK consultant because MK is not what it seems to be. 

This is EXACTLY how it felt for me.  I am pretty sure MK is why my friends quit calling.  I rarely get calls from anyone anymore because I used to just cram it down everyone's throat... without realizing.  My brain was MK all the time, 24/7.  How embarassing for me.  And to call them would take more courage than I have right now, because I would have to admit I was wrong when I was SO sure I was right with all of what I was telling them.

You know, if MK is SO great, then consultants shouldn't have to work hard to recruit.  I mean, McDonald's doesn't have to BEG people to work there... or ask them for money down!  One would think that unemployed, desperate housewives would find US (the consultant) in droves the way  Kaybot make the opportunity seem so wonderful...

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« Reply #24 on: December 27, 2006, 11:21:23 PM »

Ditto to what has been said about Kaybots being trained to find a need a fill it. At times I have felt really taken advantage of by my recruiter/director. But mostly, I know that she genuinely "beelieves" in the opportunity and I don't blame her for wanting to share something that is important to her. The truth is, when I started MK I really needed friends and my recruiter/director and I clicked immediately. We became very close very fast and had a really high trust level. She is a really good person and I just always felt that if she believed in it then it must be a good thing. I'm not an idiot, but I do tend to assume the best about people. I think the MK system exploits the bonds that women form.
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« Reply #25 on: March 27, 2007, 08:52:10 PM »

I fell for it because I trusted my "friend"  she knew that I was miserable at my job and really talked up the fact that I could replace my job or go part time with selling Mary-Kay like she does.  So I believed her , let her talk me into buy alot of inventory and now look at me.  I have a new fantastic job and havent sold by 200 dollars worth!!  Sick Sick mad2 mad2 mad2 mad2.  But with the help of my wonderful DH and this website I see the light and am getting rid of that crap and paying off my debt!!
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« Reply #26 on: March 27, 2007, 10:50:29 PM »

I got into it because a friend of mine was selling and after I tried it for awhile I saw a big differance in my skin. It is the only product that seems to agree with it.  I bought for a year and thought hey i'm spending enough to meet the quota.  So I signed up. I did pretty good for the first year.  I didn't have any training and wasn't told about the buy back or anything. Just signed up and that was it. THen my director called me and invited me to a "meeting".  I thought I was going to "learn".  I was told how much better I could do since this is a small area and very few sell around here. I started stocking my inventory and soon realized (not soon enough) that these meetings weren't to learn how to do anything but get more and more to sell the product.  Needless to say the area is saturated with Mk consultants now and i'm sitting on tons of inventory and debt. I'm so  mad2 at myself for not listening to myself but now i've found PLH and PT and things are looking up.  Anyway that's my story of how I wound up here and how I fell for it.
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« Reply #27 on: March 30, 2007, 06:52:10 PM »

the marketing plan is set up to attract all types of women...as consultants we are DRILLED to learn the different personality types so we can chamillion ourselves to give them what it is we think they want. There is something in it that appeals to all women..whether it is money, recognition, entepeneurship, friends, parties and fun, girlfriend time..  From the outside it looks like it really is what they say..so you join and get wrapped up in the rah rah...even if it is not your kind of thing...you get sucked into the "friendly competition" and recognition and doing more and making bigger goals...you begin to feel like you are making a difference and you are doing something really important.. all the while..being led by directors who are struggling to keep it together and stay positive and make it look like they are making all this money... you get this image that you can do it too! why not?? you question things but think you are the only one...and cant be negative...so you deny any REAL feelings...
It is an easy little bubble to find yourself wrapped up in.
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« Reply #28 on: March 30, 2007, 08:29:27 PM »

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« Reply #29 on: March 31, 2007, 02:18:20 AM »

I fell for it because I really thought that the woman who recruited me knew everything! I thought she was so smart that it must be a great thing! I fell for it because I told her that I needed to make more money an hour at my job and I wanted her to help me get it. See, she was a board member of a condominium complex I worked at! She wouldn't steer me wrong, now would she? Hmm! If you're reading this ML, WTH???????

We fell for it because we trusted too much! I really believed people when they said they would help me or that I could trust them. I don't any more and that's sad!

Mary Kay out of everything has taught me that you can't trust people especially if they use God's name with profits ($$$ money that is). Read between the lines ladies when someone uses God's name! 

Anyway, we fell for it because we are good honest people and we got out of it because we wanted to stay that way!!!!!!!  Love
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