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« on: January 31, 2008, 11:19:46 AM »

I was sitting in the Dr.'s office reading a parenting magazine yesterday when I came across a small article addressing Artificial Sweetener Safety.  I can't remember if it was Parents or Parenting magazine (I'll have to look that up later and post it here.)  I was outraged to read this: in one column titled "Stevia", it said that no conclusive evidence has found it safe for consumption and that it may even cause reproductive problems.   :wtf: !  There was no reference to who conducted and paid for that research.  Then, in the column titled "Aspartame", it said a recent study by the University of Michigan has deemed this safe to use as a sweetener in food.  Again,  :wtf:

Here's my 2 cents on the matter:  Stevia is a natural plant derivative that the FDA REALLY doesn't want to label "safe" b/c they are financiall in cahoots w/ the Aspartame people.  Bear with me, I'll explain.

Apartame contains 3 major components: methanol, phenylalanine, and aspartic acid.  All 3 individually have been shown to either stimulate brain cells to death, upset hormone balances in the brain or act as a nerve poison.  The synergistic effects of these 3 chemical components on health are largely unknown.
The Canadian authors of 'Hard to Swallow: The Truth About Food Additives" describe what happens when a diet drink containing aspartame is stored at room temp for a week or more: "There is no aspartame left in the soft drinks, just the components it breaks down into, like formaldehyde, formic acid, and diketopiperazine, a chemical which can cause brain tumours. All of these substances are known to be toxic to humans."
It took 16 years ofr the FDA to finally approve the use of aspartame b/c many of the animal studies testing it's safety had produced a disturbing pattern of brain tumors.  In 1980 an FDA Board of Inquiry voted unanimously against approving it for human consumption.  A year later the commissioner of the FDA, Arthur Hull Hayes Jr., overruled his agency's own scientists and approved it for use in dry food products.  He approved it's use in carbonated drinks in 1983.  Soon thereafter Hayes left the FDA and went to work for G.D. Searle & Co., the pharmaceutical co. that MAKES aspartame.  (Searle is now Pfizer).
Over the next 2 years after aspartame was added to soft drinks, research proved incidence of brain cancer among US citizens had increased sharply.  Warnings about it's toxicity were issued in 1991 by NIH which catalogued 167 adverse effects; in 1992 by the US Air Force in a warning to its pilots not to fly after ingesting it; and in 1994 by the USDHHS (health/human svcs.) which detailed 88 documented symptoms of toxicity.
Here is a partial list of diseases thought to be exacerbated or triggered by this additive: birth defects, depression, mental retardation, chronic fatigue syndrome, brain tumours, epilepsy, MS, parkinson's, Alzheimers, etc.
It was even once listed by the US Pentagon as a prospective biochemical warfare weapon.  The manufacturer's make so much money and exercise so much political influence, the regulatory system has been manipulated and compromised.
It's sad to see a magazine parent's go to for guidance sice w/ Big Business and Big Medicine.  So, University of Michigan - where is this research on Stevia?  Who paid you to do it?  Was it truly open-ended in it's search for answers or was it directed at finding fault, no matter how inconsequential, with Stevia as a food sweetener? 
Somehow I highly doubt that Stevia has any adverse effects, and if so, what's the fine print?  By that I mean what are the chances of anything really happening, and to what extent is the negative effect?  "Reproductive Issues" is a vague umbrella to toss something under - that could just mean it increases, or even alleviates, PMS!  Who knows.  We won't, until we demand that our system give us the entire truth and let us decide for ourselves what's safe and what's not.
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« Reply #1 on: January 31, 2008, 11:58:20 AM »

I agree with you.  The US is not going to approve stevia as a sweetener because of the sugar and artificial sweetener industry.  Having said that I've read the stevia causing reproductive problems study before.  I'm sure if I googled it I could find something.  In that case I would rather be safe than sorry, if I were TTC.  Actually if I were TTC I would not use stevia or aspartame.  But that's just me.  Herbs are good and have their place.  But just like medicine (they are medicine) I think people need to be careful.  Just because something is a herb doesn't mean that it can't hurt you. 
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« Reply #2 on: January 31, 2008, 12:07:09 PM »

I googled the stevia reproductive study was done in 2006 in Europe with rats.  No one has done a human study. 
http://www.cspinet.org/nah/4_00/stevia.html
http://safety.lovetoknow.com/Dangers_of_Stevia
http://www.steviacafe.net/dangers-of-stevia
http://www.pritikin.com/eperspective/0606/sweetTooth.shtml

Personally I think we all have to do our own research and decide what we think is best for us.  I hate reading studies.  Most seem to have found their answer before they start looking, they just make the study fit the answer.   :nutzo:  And that doesn't prove anything.
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« Reply #3 on: January 31, 2008, 06:44:06 PM »

I agree and understand with what you said Ginger, BUT, even green tea, mint leaves, parsley etc. are herbs and we use them in large amounts. Did you know that Chamomile carries a warning that it could cause an abortion? I haven't read the articles, but I imagine that it would take a huge amount of Stevia to cause reproductive problems! The FDA sucks sometimes! Look at our latest meat recall. I am posting that somewhere else!
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« Reply #4 on: January 31, 2008, 07:25:58 PM »

Every year here in New Mexico we have an organization that tries to get aspartame banned in the state.  It hasn't passed mostly because they keep saying it is a national thing that needs to be addressed...  But they have lots of support for getting rid of it here...

Although when the feds wouldn't move on putting a bittering agent in antifreeze to keep animals from ingesting it, we passed our own law for the additive!  And that forced the companies to start supplying more states with it out west as Oregon and Cali had already passed similiar laws.

So we do like to do our own thing, and the ban on aspartame may pass one day!
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« Reply #5 on: January 31, 2008, 07:31:14 PM »

Did you know that Chamomile carries a warning that it could cause an abortion?

Actually I did know this because I read (on another forum) about a lady that this happened to.  :( 
Honestly probably anything is bad for you if you eat too much. 
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« Reply #6 on: January 31, 2008, 07:51:28 PM »

I still cannot figure out why people (in general) think that putting a man made sweetening chemical into their complicated bodies over something more natural a good thing? It's common sense not dollars to me! JMO

This is why I don't trust that "big business" has my best interest in mind when they are marketing a product....they are looking to sell it and take my money....ethics? What's that? Some course they (big business) took in College then burned all the notes and book???

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« Reply #7 on: February 02, 2008, 08:18:22 PM »

Thanks for the info Ginger, it would be nice if when that magazine printed that article they included the whole story rather than deciding for people with a very biased presentation.  I haven't gone to the links yet to read up on Stevia, but I do want to know what type and to what extent these "reproductive issues" are.  Like I said, it could be next to nothing but they would still have to report even that by law.  Everything in moderation... common sense right?  With all the proven human studies and years of after-effects on people behind us, I'd rather sprinkle a bit of plant extract on my yogurt than a synthetic chemical.  Plants can have medicinal effects too, after all that's where alot of medicine originates.  Too bad our society won't fund more research for mainstream use of herbal medicine or we'd have had these answers long ago.  I suppose the healthiest thing would be just to eat honey or agave nectar - but for those of us who have medical reasons not to eat any grams of sugar at all, the alternatives are slim.  haha no pun intended.  :teehee:
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« Reply #8 on: February 02, 2008, 09:18:48 PM »

Rethinkingpink,  I think you should write a letter to the editor of that magazine and explain your frustration with the lack of sources cited. 
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« Reply #9 on: February 02, 2008, 09:41:13 PM »

herbal teas are dangerous in some instances. Most powerful medications come from plants, and herbs are not something to take lightly.
When I was pregnant I drank raspberry tea (made from raspberry leaves) - and I couldn't figure out why I was sick as a dog (diarrhea). I kept drinking the tea thinking it would make me feel better, and it wasn't until later that I read that raspberry leaf tea can start contractions. That's why pregnant women aren't supposed to be messing with herbs.
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« Reply #10 on: February 02, 2008, 11:21:00 PM »

Thank you Ginger for those links!! I finally took the time to read them! I really liked this one, http://www.cspinet.org/nah/4_00/stevia.html

I thought that they were more thorough and actually gave you the amount that is safe for you. I also agreed with what they said about the concerns of Americas over doing everything and if Stevia was put into diet sodas we may have a problem! Too true! Soooooooooooo glad I read those!!!!!!! Thanks again! :ty:  :hearts 
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« Reply #11 on: February 03, 2008, 12:51:15 PM »

PC, I think if we were all more educated on which herbs have what effect that it wouldn't be such a mystery to steer clear of.  Big Medicine has their let the politician's hands into their pockets so much though that they'd never allow mainstream acceptance of herbs as medicine.  There are some herbs (I had never heard of chamomile doing it until this thread) that native tribes used for abortion - Black Kohosh being one.  I don't know how much a person would have to ingest to present a danger.  So they can be harmful - but they can be used safely if you know what effects the herbs have.
The sad thing is that they can have powerful positive effects many times without the horrible side effects that mainstream medicine carries.  Lavendar oil, when absorbed through pressure points on the skin, had been shown to reduce blood pressure - I don't know if it is strong enough to help those w/ dangerously high BP, but you get my point.  Herbs can be helpful as medicine, not just feel-good supplements.  Thanks for the idea Ginger, I think I will write them a letter. 
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« Reply #12 on: February 09, 2008, 08:17:57 PM »

Okay I found a very interesting article on aspartame....anyone that has ever had a diet drink should read this!

I knew it wasn't good for you, but I had no idea how bad it really was!

Enjoy!
http://thetruthaboutstuff.com/review1.shtml
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