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« on: January 05, 2008, 11:34:12 AM »

If you're like me, you've had a little trouble knowing specifically what each candidate stands for, esp. when there are so many general statements thrown around and then wildly cheered for.  For example, I hear alot of candidates hollering in their campain-trail-hoarse voices, "It's time for a change!", and other such things.  This does not tell me how me voting for you is any different than me voting for the next guy.  How can I know where the candidates stand on issues that are most important to me?

I believe that for any good change to actually occur, Americans are going to put forth effort and do some digging.  What the TV presents to us is only what our liberal  media allows through, we don't know how it's been edited.  Also, vague promises made by candidates have yet to make it through the House and the Senate for approval.  So, to kick off my personal "dig-fest", I found a site that listed many questions on all important topics with each candidates answer.  Here's the link:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/politics/interactives/candidatequiz

Another very useful but not widely used tool to sift through the candidates by individual citizens is the candidate's voting record.  Those records are public, and when I find a site that lists how they have all voted on crucial issues in the past I'll post the link to that too.
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« Reply #1 on: January 05, 2008, 01:32:51 PM »

Wonderful...

My Republican votes tied with Ron Paul and Mitt Romney.

*sigh*  I'm glad I have 10 months more to ponder and decide.

I'm not even going to bother with the Democratic questions because after the first three, none of the responses are what I believe...
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« Reply #2 on: January 05, 2008, 02:17:30 PM »



Thanks rethinkingpink!  This is very helpful information.  I'll be looking for the other link when you post it!

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« Reply #3 on: January 05, 2008, 05:04:13 PM »

I'm surprised that Ron Paul is even still around - the media is backing away from him because he has ties to white supremicists and other unsavory groups (I read this info on other news sites, but it looks accurate based on the the way everyone is trying to tiptoe away and cut him out of debates and stuff)

Anyway that's a neat tool, I'll have to look at it more when I get some TIME! ha ha
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« Reply #4 on: January 06, 2008, 11:23:55 AM »

I think allegations that Ron Paul is associated w/ white supremacists is probably the same type of allegation the Obama was raised Muslim, trained in Jihad, and just switched from his Muslim congregation membership to a Christian congregation membership about 3 years before running for any political office.  Now mind you, there are rumors swirling everywhere, even on real news sites, that may or may not be true - about all candidates.  I can see how some could take Ron Paul's statements and edit them to link him to white supremacy, or how real white supremacists would want him in office b/c of where he stands on certain things (although I'm not convinced he takes his stand on those issues for the sake of white supremacy but for valid reasons).

I'm one that would rather watch other stuff than debates, or just be doing something other than watching TV.  Why can't they send every voting citizen a "catalog" of sorts, listing everything anyone would ever want to know (with links to find cold hard proof to back up any claims) about each of them?  Oh, right, that makes too much sense and would cut the need for so much campaign funding!

PC I think we have to take seriously the fact that the media, even real news media (CNN, etc.), can propogate any idea they want about a candidate by showing just a bit of an interview, or showing a picture and giving their own explanation, basically lying by omission.  A perfect example of that is when people jumped all over Obama for not having his hand over his heart during the pledge after a picture of what appeared to be that circulated.  The truth is the national anthem was being sung and while the other candidates placed their hands over thier hearts, he refused (which to me is equally disturbing).  Some more truth that can be backed by records and proof is that he refused to say the hypocratic oath. There are some pretty serious claims made about some of the candidates (ex. the stuff going around about Ron Paul and Obama) and our grandfathers, great grandfathers, etc. died in nasty battles to ensure we would have the rights we do now.  I take voting very seriously & we have to try to find some sort of cold hard proof to back up claims, or else keep in mind they may not be true.

Personally, I believe our media and even our government would like Ron Paul out the picture b/c he is all for reducing the size of the government and putting alot of programs, responsibility, and CHOICE back into the hands of the states and individual American citizens.  Without government running every little thing and owning every little thing (or having their hands in the pockets of those who do), it leaves room for competition.  For example, if we get a nationwide socialized healthcare system we will be at the mercy of The Man as to what is offered.  Big Medical Businnes and Big Pharmaceuticals will only have to meet the bare standards set by such legislation and will try to provide service/product for as little cost as possible so they can skim a little off the top of the gov't funding they would recieve.  I, for one, don't believe they would have my best health interests at heart.  But that's just one way to look at it.  I would love to live in a utopian society where everyone's needs are met but on the other hand I want opportunity.  If Hillary or Obama is elected I may move to Canada, because they've been doing the socialist thing for years and have at least most of the wrinkles ironed out. 

Oh ya, and here's something interesting, just to ponder - not that it's for sure true: IF Obama was a member of a Muslim congregation and truly converted to Christianity (i.e. he did it for real and not just as a facade), terrorist extremist types would be after him.  The terrorist-extremist type of Muslims promise to kill anyone who betrays Islam, esp. for Christianity.  Another thought to ponder: the terrorists always said they'd bring us down from the inside out.

Have a great day kids!  :rasp:
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« Reply #5 on: January 06, 2008, 02:17:26 PM »

If Hillary or Obama is elected I may move to Canada, because they've been doing the socialist thing for years and have at least most of the wrinkles ironed out. 

Have a great day kids!  :rasp:

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Canada may have been doing the socialist thing for a long time....but now we are looking at different options....because it is very expensive and we pay a lot of taxes....I pay 30% of my income in tax, add on another 14% to every shopping purchase I make as well!

Don't even get me started on welfare....mind you there is a need and there is also a ton of fraud too!

Anyway as an outsider that cannot vote, but watches a lot of American TV, I kinda like Hillary...I think she would be very good! But I've been wrong before. :teehee:

Bush can't get back in....right! Goodness I hope not! :del: :ign: :ign:
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« Reply #6 on: January 06, 2008, 02:54:43 PM »

From someone that ha lived in Congressman Ron Paul's district and met him on several occassions......PLEASE DON'T VOTE FOR RON PAUL!!!!!!!!!  ** stepping down off my Soapbox now, thank you for your attention. twocents
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« Reply #7 on: January 06, 2008, 05:45:02 PM »

No fair Chaos Tamer. You gotta elaborate after a statement like that. Peaks my curiosity.

I watched the debates last night and Hillary kicked serious butt.

Obama never gives specifics. I'm worried that he just talks in utopian generalities but doesn't give details. I don't think he has enough experience either, he just has the Oprah machine tooting his horn.

On the Republican side, I thought it was interesting that in the debate, whenever Ron Paul would speak, the other candidates were laughing or rolling their eyes about him. I thought that was pretty childish and not the type of behavior I want from someone running the country. (I'm not saying this to support Ron Paul, just an observation.)

I thought Huckabee did a really good and was impressive.

Anyway...just some thoughts from little ole me!

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« Reply #8 on: January 06, 2008, 05:59:06 PM »

OK, I visited th site last night and since I am undecided whether I am going to vote Republican or Democrat, i answered the questions on both sides.

Do I even need to tell you that I was on line all night?  GEEZ!!!

Well on the Rep. side it said Ron Paul with Mike Huckabee 2nd choice.  on Dem. side it said Hilary #1 and John Edwards #2.

RTP you are absolutely right about the media. If you make your decisions by reading the short version of the candidates answer you won't be getting the full story.  After reading the short version and the FULL STORY version on several questions I could see that I needed to read ALL of the answers. 

I was maybe leaning towards Huckabee on Rep side and Hilary or Edwards on Dem. side, but after reading the answers to the questions and voting for the answer that seemed more in line with my thoughts I was surprised to see Ron Paul pop up as #1 and Huckabee as #2.

I have been trying to watch the debates and home town meetings as much as possible, but there is still a long way to go. 

Very interesting!  Thanks for the link RTP!
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« Reply #9 on: January 06, 2008, 06:47:12 PM »

Dang, Chaos, everyone I know from Texas says that...  Why do y'all hate him??  Please give us some dirt!

I missed the debates -- football prevailed, but caught up on the blogs today...  My little ole Gov didn't do too bad...  Poor thing.
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« Reply #10 on: January 06, 2008, 08:15:21 PM »

I'm right  there with Chaos...DON'T VOTE FOR RON PAUL!!!
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« Reply #11 on: January 06, 2008, 08:42:49 PM »

Ron Paul is a Libraterian (sp) who ran for president before some years back.  He has changed and runs as a Republican so that he benefits from the straight ticket votes.  He is in one term, people get sick of his voting record (which by the way is VERY interesting) and he is not re-elected.  You can go to the House of Representative website and look at his voting record.  More times than not he votes with the Democrats.  So, he is NOT what he claims to want to be.  Has anyone really paid attention to his dress, mannerisms and what comes out of his mouth in response to the questions.  He was on The View and they got him to show his true colors.  :matoes: for Ron.
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« Reply #12 on: January 07, 2008, 01:43:00 PM »

Chaos, specifics, please!!  It would help us all if we knew what exactly you're talking about.  I, for one, genuinely want to know more about what you're saying.
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