let's try that again.

while this was going on, did anyone thnk that thisn was wierd?  that there was an element of, oh, idunno, over the top commaroderery? (i can't spell)  the whole thing just seems too weird that anybody could believe.  NOT commin' down on anybody.  i know there were deceptions (to say the least)(i got duped) but once you were there, didn't it seem, again, over the top?
i have said in the past that when bitch directo came to the house to talk with us, i gave her a bit of a hard time.  i had no idea what was in store.  i can see how folks get there, but (humbly) i don't see how people stay there. 
forgive me for ANY offense to anybody.

That was me, Sickie!  Kinda like a deer in the headlights...  Y'all have them up there in the black hole, huh?   

Ren, that is why I got out...  Not in very long at all -- at seminar they acted like a PICTURE of scary kay was the second coming of Christ.  I am not kidding nor being facetious.  I wanted to run and I did.  In fact, I spent extra money to fly home early as did my roomate.

Total cult.  Yuck.

Yes, we have lots of deer in headlights here in the black hole!

You mean she wasn't the second coming of Christ????  *bewildered*   

they do act like little children don't they?!?!?! 

sick-  i appreciate you understanding.  i do. really.. 
i did not 'work the business' with justme.  at first, my attitude was of this is her thing, i'm gonna let her do it.  in fact, my only request (demand) of this 'oppritunity' was that it not interfear with my job.  not because it was MY job, but beacuse my job is the main source of income.  i work stupid hours, and the time of year dictates what my hours will be.  she had 'meeting' on mon nites, then changed to thurs, for what reason i don't know.  she made arrangements for the kids, for when i could be home, for weekends, even for overnights.  this seemed a bit extreme.  that she would kill herself making arrangements so she could go to the free training she had to pay for.

forgive me for rambling.  i've said before that i have a herd time putting my thoughts in wrighting.  there's alot more.  i don't know how to start or finish.

Pink juice and pink weed??? I was ripped off! Never got any of that!!!! It is a cult just like the Mormon church is a cult and as soon as i have a minute I will explain.

justme was in for 9 mos.  not a long time, i know.  when you live it, when it's happening, it seems like there is no way it will ever end.  i've told you before i was the one who ended it.  felt like a a$$hole when i did it.  that was her thought process, i think.  i wouldn't have to work such hours if she could help the income.  what she didn't count on was the fact that my business need me as much as i need it.  so it wasn't about the money, it was more about the time. and still is.

when the shit hit the fan last july, i agreed to sto working sundays.  i do understand her piont of view.  my normal hours are 5 or 5:30 am to 7 or 7:30 pm weekdays.  sat is my shot day.  5:30 to 5:00 or so.  so i can understand why working on sun woul be a sore spot.  (i used to get SO much work done on sun)

sorry to ramble. again unorganized thoughts.

I think many of us might just miss the actual "cult" aspects in unit meeting because there aren't as many people there (or maybe my director realized that most of us would have looked at her crazy for doing "boot camp" chants!) I saw a lot of the strang(er) behavior at Seminar really. That's when people started in on the whole "big girl dreams" and songs and over hype that was odd. I've never been in a cult (which might be why I didn't get emotional when MK came onscreen to say something "inspirational" and I for dman sure wasn't going to start hopping around singing "Mary Kay Enthusiasm"!!