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« Reply #105 on: October 25, 2006, 08:35:24 PM » |
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Hey Ren, I hope you find this site as helpful and healing as I do. And don't worry, I forgive you for having to pop my bubble. Love ya!
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« Reply #105 on: October 25, 2006, 08:35:24 PM » |
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« Reply #106 on: October 25, 2006, 10:27:56 PM » |
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Hello Ren, It sounds like you did it right. Good for you. Yeah, I know, these directors seem to be real  .
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« Reply #107 on: October 26, 2006, 09:05:48 AM » |
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A husband and wife team?! How fantastic! I'm very proud of you both for coming out of this ordeal mostly unscathed and still together on the other side!  Wlecome to the forum, Ren! I'm proud of both of our guys here! 
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« Reply #108 on: October 26, 2006, 09:18:12 AM » |
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Hello Ren and Justme.........glad you've "come out of the closet" and decided to participate in our MK Hate Club.........just kidding, it's not all about that........it nice to have new voices and new stories! And I might add that I think it is incredible that we've got a husband and wife team!!! What support!!!
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« Reply #109 on: October 26, 2006, 11:58:42 AM » |
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Hey Done, I've been here for a while. DH joined us a few days ago, I didn't realize it til after I had posted my first response to Ren the other day that he was my sweetie. It was a long, lousy start to summer around here. When DH first told me about how he felt towards MK I was blown away, couldn't see what he was talking about or what the problem was. Fortunately for me, he forgave me when I told him to go to h*ll and stood by me while I worked the pink out of my system. Now the  scripts are an inside joke that we throw around with each other and usually end up  . I'd say we were one of the lucky couples that did survive MK and the world of the  s.
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« Reply #110 on: October 26, 2006, 11:00:12 PM » |
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Wow! Ren! that was great, I agree with you on the emotional thing, is actually good to know how you see it in a man perspective and I understand what you are saying! It's so cool that there is a husband and wife team here! Hi justme!! You have a GREAT husband! We are lucky women to have such great husband that love us unconditionally 
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« Reply #111 on: October 28, 2006, 03:53:42 PM » |
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chaparel-
thanks. iappreciate the sentimate. it's not the fact that i 'did it right', it's the fact that my wife (by now everyone knows is justme) was willing to listen. believe me when i tell you that at first listening to me (or ANY other 'negative nellie') was pure and simple out of the question. i believe that she was more willing to listen to her director than to her husband. that initself was not a good feeling. i spelled it out to her. 'I love you, you directer does NOT!! your director is making money through you, and good and goddamed if she is going to let you go'. so by her director, i was branded as 'unsupportive'. i will support my wife emotinally and any other way humanly possible until the day i die. but i felt that support was not being reciprocated; and THAT'S WHAT A MARRIAGE IS!!!, at least to me. love and support going both ways. what is good for her, great. what is good for me, great. when something gets in the way of being able to reciprocate that support in either direction, then something must be done to bring it back together. and i guarin f'n tee you it will be difficult and painful to both of you. i was scared as hell. there was a point that i honestly did not know which direction she was going to turn. of course the ultimate goal was to stay together. but i knew that there was a chance that would not happen. but when i dropped the boom, there was no going back. the only way i knew how to love and support her was to be there for her. i work long and screwey hours, and i was not home much. since then i do my damndedest to be home when i can, and in some cases when i can't.
believe me when i say that i ain't great in the advice department. everyone is different. i can only tell you what i did, and the outcome. beyond that, i got nothin'. i would love to help, but your ballgame is just that; your ballgame. all i can say is good luck. and you have no idea how much i truely mean that. i hope to hear from you an how you are doing.
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hi babe. i know you are reading this. love you!!!
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« Reply #112 on: October 28, 2006, 04:45:37 PM » |
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it's the fact that my wife (by now everyone knows is justme) was willing to listen. believe me when i tell you that at first listening to me (or ANY other 'negative nellie') was pure and simple out of the question. i believe that she was more willing to listen to her director than to her husband. that initself was not a good feeling. i spelled it out to her. 'I love you, you directer does NOT!! your director is making money through you, and good and goddamed if she is going to let you go'. so by her director, i was branded as 'unsupportive'. Yep, that's a pretty accurate statement. I thought my director was a true friend who actually had my best interests at heart so I did listen to her (we were friends before MK). It took quite a while for me to realize she only had her best intersts in mind and not mine. And yes, she did tell me he was being unsupportive when he would bring up things like MK being a cult or the things he had read on the anti-MK sites. It wasn't until she started making me look bad to a customer of mine (who was a friend) that I realized her true colors. Or, as I was sharing with her that she had tried to tear apart my marriage and she said if I had asked her for help specifically with my marriage she would have prayed on the phone with then and there. Umm, hello? If you knew me even a little bit you would realize that would not have been an appropriate course of action. when something gets in the way of being able to reciprocate that support in either direction, then something must be done to bring it back together. and i guarin f'n tee you it will be difficult and painful to both of you. i was scared as hell. there was a point that i honestly did not know which direction she was going to turn. of course the ultimate goal was to stay together. but i knew that there was a chance that would not happen. but when i dropped the boom, there was no going back. the only way i knew how to love and support her was to be there for her. i work long and screwey hours, and i was not home much. since then i do my damndedest to be home when i can, and in some cases when i can't. Yep, just love your DWs and show them how much you love them! Be prepared to put up a fight because the fog can be very blinding and very thick to see through! I am so thankful that Ren stuck by me as I worked it out of my system. hi babe. i know you are reading this. love you!!!
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« Reply #113 on: October 28, 2006, 10:22:13 PM » |
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Hi Ren,
You really went through heck! I think I might not be as patient at least not with her director. So far I've not anything new to report. As far as I know my wife's not doing anything with her MK business, but then she's being kind of being quiet about it and I'm not pushing her. She is reading a lot of makeup books she's checked from the library and putting on the stuff which I don't much like since she looks better without it IMO. Still haven't heard from her director. I guess all SHE was interested in was the cha-ching cha-ching! All well, fine by me.
On a different note, I think these sites ought to put a glossary of MK/MLM lingo on their homepage's since a lot of new people might not know what the acronyms mean. Examples DIQ and DW. I'm a bit ignorant.
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« Reply #114 on: October 28, 2006, 10:42:40 PM » |
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On a different note, I think these sites ought to put a glossary of MK/MLM lingo on their homepage's since a lot of new people might not know what the acronyms mean. Examples DIQ and DW. I'm a bit ignorant.
DW- Dear Wife DH- Dear Husband DIQ- Director in Qualification And yes, I really did put him through heck but fortunately he stood by me and today our marriage is stronger for it.
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« Reply #115 on: November 17, 2006, 10:18:13 PM » |
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Well not much of an update. The wife has gone out a couple of days to drum up customers. I asked what she's doing but she wont say exactly. She says only she's talking to people she knows and friends. I told her that one way to lose a friend is to try to sell them stuff. I've pressed her for more details but she's keeping hush hush about things. I gather that she's been handing out her card with her email address. Also she's been checking her email but so far no orders. She may be getting discouraged though she did say that one lady was "delighted" and asked her to sign her up as a recruit. On the down side I noticed her looking at an order form. I asked her if she's going to order more and she got a little irritated. 
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« Reply #116 on: November 19, 2006, 02:24:08 PM » |
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chaparral-
happy thanksgiving. have some turkey, watch some football, have a couple of pops, and enjoy the day. believe me, you've earned it. i've got another situation here, and i KNOW i've earned it. btw- pats 28 pack 0! as of 3:23 edt.
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« Reply #117 on: November 19, 2006, 08:33:00 PM » |
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Hmmm, having a little trouble posting.
Anyway, as I was saying, thanks Ren.
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« Reply #118 on: November 29, 2006, 10:39:41 PM » |
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Well not much of an update. The wife has gone out a couple of days to drum up customers. I asked what she's doing but she wont say exactly. She says only she's talking to people she knows and friends. I told her that one way to lose a friend is to try to sell them stuff. I've pressed her for more details but she's keeping hush hush about things. I gather that she's been handing out her card with her email address. Also she's been checking her email but so far no orders. She may be getting discouraged though she did say that one lady was "delighted" and asked her to sign her up as a recruit. On the down side I noticed her looking at an order form. I asked her if she's going to order more and she got a little irritated.  This is soooo very expected. Chaparral please keep us updated from time to time. I know I am concerned, having followed this thread from the beginning.
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« Reply #119 on: November 30, 2006, 12:34:51 AM » |
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PPA there's just not that much to say. Yesterday, or maybe it was the day before, she got dressed up and left with her MK bag full of stuff. I asked if she is going out selling and she wouldn't say but she seemed in a good mood. When she got home her good mood seemed to have gone south some. I asked what she did and again she would not say. I asked why and she said that I so riled her at the beginning that she doesn't want to go through that again. I do though get the feeling that she has made another purchase as she let slip that she was going over to someone's house to pick up a package but wouldn't tell me what it was. Maybe her "director told her not to tell me anything... Besides this there just is not much sign of anything. No calls from her "director" (that I know of), no meetings (that I know of) or ought else. Sure is gettin cold though. 
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