I think you have every right to be suspicious about the director having the box sent to her address. In my unit a girl was getting in trouble for order so much every month and not selling it that fast from her husband, so the director actually had the lack of morales to tell the girl to make the order and have it shipped to her home so that the husband would not know. Now what kind of "friend" would talk a girl into doing things behind her husband's back and hurting the trust in her marriage just for her (the director's) own self gain.  Boo

A "pink" meeting is more like a women's lib meeting. Honey I was liberated AFTER I stopped being brain washed by the 

Chapparal,
What I meant by a rolling 12 months is this:
A consultant can always return what she has purchased from the company within the previous 12 months.  Many women get conned into large initial orders, don't sell much if any of it, and don't send it back within the 12 month period so they lose out on returning their initial investment amount.  They may have made a few smaller orders in that first year but if they wait 13 months to do the repurchase they would not be able to include that first large order $ amount.  Make sense?  This will probably help to explain it a bit more clearly (I hope it's ok to post this link here):
http://marykaysucks.wordpress.com/returning-inventory/

Okay, just read the link.  Some thoughts.

You can cancel your agreement with Mary Kay at any time, and return any products up to the wholesale value of inventory purchased within the last 12 months.

Even if the wholesale value is the full amount you paid for the stuff?

However, you should be aware that you will be credited with the MOST RECENT WHOLESALE VALUE of the item, which is not necessarily how much you paid for it. (Example: You bought an item that cost you $10 wholesale. It has been discounted by MK to $7 wholesale. You will get only $7 wholesale credit if you return this item to MK.)

Is ther any way to verify what the most recent wholesale value is?  Does anyone ever buy something at say $10.00 and get back $12.50?  Is 90% a rule or an average?  Why do I have a sneaking suspecion that if you return their stuff the "most recent wholesale value" will unfortuantely always be lower than the amount you paid for it?

By the way I read on another site that you can return stuff anytime, that you are not actually limited to the one year thing.  Not sure where I read this though.

The last statement is kind of sad when you think of it.

If you ever want to get back into a business like this, there are plenty of other companies out there. 

You can verify the products that have been discounted by going into MKIntouch, the consultant's hub online, and go in to place an order. Click on the Pink Sale to bring up that order sheet. These are the items that are closeout items and their wholesale prices have usually been reduced drastically.

That is exactly how I did it and it worked like a charm for me.  I put together a new "fake" order on intouch and it listed all the current prices.  To be honest, I think that if you do most of the work for them, they basically take you for your word that your numbers are accurate.  I was off on my calculations by maybe 7.00 and I am NOT a math wizz by any stretch of the word  :-)  I sure am good at "fakin' it" though   

Is ther any way to verify what the most recent wholesale value is?  Does anyone ever buy something at say $10.00 and get back $12.50?  Is 90% a rule or an average? 

I went back to find the copies of what I returned with the prices listed etc and it seems to me that I might have claimed the current price on the lipsticks and the retail price had increased by 1.00 from when I had first purchased it and when the price increased, I might have entered the "current" price (the 1.00 higher amount).  Might have been an error on their part because they don't go back to check exactly what date the item was purchased (ie, 20 lipsticks returned and only 10  purchased at the higher price).  Somehow, I just don't think they check back that far, besides their making a ton of cash off of us anyway.  Maybe that's why they do the 90pct buyback instead of the 100pct, so that the 10pct might make up for any errors their returns department might make??  Just a thought.   I'll try to find that paperwork to see how many lipsticks I returned. 

upyourcadillac thank you for the info on MKIntouch.  Seems to me all this info ought to be on some main page in easy to access, step by step form.

"Don't let them scare her by telling her that if she returns inventory she will never be able to sell Mary Kay ever again and she is burning a bridge."    I sure hope that if she gets out of this she never does it again.   >:(

yougogirl said "besides their making a ton of cash off of us anyway"  Uh Yeah.  1 - 2 BILLION $ a year is more that many 3rd word COUNTRIES babe.

"Chapperel, does your wife know you're posting here?"  Yes she knows.  Not jealous a bit that I'm talking with all you beautiful women (going by those little pics).  Also, I'm going to bookmark this thread for future reference.

Lately she is telling me that I've put doubt in her mind so now she isn't sure she can do it.  This makes me feel guilty.  I told her that now that she's bought all this stuff she has an obligation to sell it - but by the rules of our contract.  I hate putting an extra burden on her, she only had the best interests of the family in mind, but I hope she thinks twice before she plunks down thousands on another mlm scam.

Thanks yougogirl. 

You are a great bunch.

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The thing is, upyourcadillac, if I forbid her to do it she will always wonder about what might have been and might subconsciously resent me for it.

She told me tonight that she made that large purchase and thinks she'd need to keep a large stock because women won't want to wait a few days for the stuff to arrive and will just go down and get it at the local store.  She also said that the paying in advance angle might not work because unless she continues to order another $200 every three months she will lose her "active" status and the 50% discount on future purchases thus making no money on them.  If, for example, she's run out of something and wants to make a small purchase for a customer but she has not bought the $200 that quarter she will have to pay retail price.  This even though she's already spent thousands of dollars with this company.  Thus MK's lawyers have figured out a scheme that forces one into debt UNLESS you're REALLY good at selling OR victimizing other women.

By the way, are the quarters cumulative - you miss 3 months you "owe" MK $200 to remain "active", 6 months you "owe" $400?

I told her that her director    being experienced in this "business" SHOULD have warned her that such a large purchase was unwise because not only might she not be able to sell so much but that she would have to continue to buy another $200 worth every quarter after that whether she needs it or not to keep getting the wholesale price for additional purchases.  She SHOULD have told her of the success/failure rate which I've been reading is around 99% failure.  Is this verifiable by the way?  I also told her that if this was a legitimate business they would have a clause stating that if you make a large purchase of so many dollars you are entitled to the 50% discount for at least a year (in my wife's case for much longer seeing as she bought so much).  That they should have offered  100% money back guarantee if the stuff is returned within a certain timeframe, like other businesses.  All of these shortcomings in additional to the cult-like behavior's of the group make this a classic scam in my book.