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« on: September 25, 2007, 06:14:16 PM »

hey!

I don't know how many homeschoolers we have here, but I would love to chat with you!  :yays:

What type of curriculum do you use?  I am using ABeka right now, but I will be switching to LifePacs soon.

I have seen Rod and Staff and those are good (even if a little basic).

What do you use?  Why?

 :pplease: tell me whay you are using!

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« Reply #1 on: September 26, 2007, 01:25:15 PM »

well I can't relate yet because I'm not doing this with my kids yet...when I was homeschooled I used a combination of different things...just pick and choose. I can't say enough good things about Saxon Math, although others on this board didn't think it was great. lol

I've got another question for you..I'm in the process of putting together a curriculum for homeschoolers on ballroom dancing. I teach and I want to start giving classes for the homeschoolers.

I'm putting together my course descriptions and objectives, and wanted to know your opinion on whether you think homeschoolers would be interested in this. I'm thinking of selling it as a 6-week phys ed course, but it's music & cultural education as well. I'm wondering what the best way to approach this would be. I'm thinking of putting together one course for the pre-teen and teen level, and one course for the younger kids. My goals are to teach them music identification, phrasing, rhythm, etc, as well as have them learning the foxtrot, waltz, tango, salsa, cha-cha, swing, and rumba. And of course each dance has a different cultural history/country of origin.

I'm also wondering what a reasonable price would be for this type of course. Do you know what homeschoolers pay for other types of outside instruction on specialied things?

It's ok if you can't answer my questions, just thought I would throw this out there...smiley

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« Reply #2 on: September 26, 2007, 01:46:22 PM »

I know lots of homeschoolers pay for "extras," but it probably depends on the area as to how much to charge.

I think you would have a good market for it, though.  I know the homeschoolers in my groups love to find different things to do with the kids for their education.  :coool2  The fact that you have culture/history/etc. along with the dance is a huge plus, too.

I think it sounds awesome!  :yays:

Maybe you could join some online homeschooling groups and ask for feedback. :star:
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« Reply #3 on: September 30, 2007, 04:08:00 AM »

Hi Shay!  :hello:
I love Horizons math, I find it's kind of inbetween Abeka and reg. public school math as far as being ahead or behind.  Abeka can get too demanding for some kids around 4th grade.  I like to use a Montessori-ish approach, incorporating hands-on and visuals, not just papers, the chalkboard and charts/flashcards.  Calvert has some cool "extras" in their Primary Math Manipulatives kit, they also have one that is for higher elementary grades.  I didn't do Calvert math w/ my son (he was Kindergarten), I did Horizons math, but for every concept we were to go over every day, whether new or review, I'd get out some of the cool stuff from that kit and make it into a hands-on learning experience.  For example, understanding how many #'s can be in the ones place before moving to the tens place, and how many tens fit inside a one hundred, etc.  They have little ones cubes, tens rods and hundreds boards that are great for that, and can be used to "play" addition/subtraction/multiplication/division too.  For reading and all things phonics/writing/language arts, I'm still a sucker for Abeka.  Esp. for the littler ones.  I do incorporate alot of my own hands-on stuff to make it more fun though.  Calvert is a neat curriculum, but it's all-encompassing - the lessons from one Calvert subject tie into the other subjects, so it's hard to break it apart and only do partial Calvert.  I found it to be a little behind where my son was at so we didn't use most of it.  I did LifePacs as a kid, and I can give a great recommendation.  Stay away from those P.A.C.E. packets from the ACE curriculum though.  Didn't retain a thing during those years.  That's my 2 cents for now.  Hope it helps.
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« Reply #4 on: September 30, 2007, 02:04:43 PM »

sorry it's been so long since I was homeschooled I don't remember all the companies. But I do recognize Abeka - but not Calvert. Is Calvert a newer curriculum? Are they still using Saxon Math or is it passe now? Wondering how much things have changed....

Did you do a preschool curriculum, or did you just let them play until kindergarten? Because my daughter would be in pre-k now, but we're lazy and she's not interested in sitting down to lessons. She has absolutely zero attention span at this point. I keep thinking she needs to be a little bit older...
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« Reply #5 on: September 30, 2007, 05:02:14 PM »

This is a very interesting thread!

PC, I didn't know you were homeschooled. How long?!

Now, my baby is still little, but time goes by fast. So, this is very informative for me. Now, for homeschooling do you have to give them a lesson everyday or can you do it every other day, or do you have to follow a certain curriculum? How does this works? Sorrym for all the questions?

PC, If I were homeschooling and I see a program like that in my town, I would've been really interested in getting my kids enroll on that! Not, that my opinion matters since I am not homeschooling   :ign:  :teehee:
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« Reply #6 on: September 30, 2007, 09:00:41 PM »

Prdiva4, each state has its own laws and regulations for homeschooling.  For example, in my state, education must take place 180 days out of a year, 5 days per week, 3 hours per day. AND, those 3 hours must fall between 8am and 4pm.  Plus you either have to have a teacher's certification or belong to an "umbrella" school.

I did seriously consider this, but we've opted to go to our Catholic School and that has been working out well for  us.
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« Reply #7 on: October 02, 2007, 08:24:32 AM »

For my state, you have 3 options:  homeschooling under the school district authority, joining a certain homeschooling organization (that cost BIG bucks to join) or joining an accountability group and (basically) forming your own private school.  The teaching parent must have a high school education/diploma.

Some states are very relaxed.  In some states, you have to only say, "I'm homeschooling," and that's about it.  LOL

Other states are very strict with rules and regulations.
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« Reply #8 on: October 02, 2007, 05:59:44 PM »

Huh, that makes me realize I am uninformed as to my states laws.  I suppose I've never had to look into it since we have so many options here - I can think of 4 different homeschool programs off the top of my head.  They are all funded under the same legislation, so the basic rules apply to all.  Each is connected to a public school district, and they reimburse a certain $$ amount free in various categories of educational instruction (lessons, curriculum, etc.).  It was very easy.  I just signed up and I was told my son had a $1,600 allowance for me to homeschool him for Kindergarten.  It was divided up into subjects (so that some parents won't spend it ALL on one subject and neglect the rest).  This is where I found out about Calvert - google it - it's a neat curriculum.  Just a wee bit behind for my taste, but on the other hand, it certainly doesn't leave anything out.  They also will pay for a new Dell laptop if you remain enrolled in their program for 2 consecutive years, plus they give a $30/month internet connection reimbursement.  There is minimal paperwork involved.  I'd say the hardest parts were first choosing what on earth I was going to use for curriculum (there's so much to pick from! It's like being in the cereal aisle!), and then the days that my son was "resistant". 
Pinkcaddy: I don't think most states will formally recognize a Pre-K program and put it on her record.  You can do stuff if you want, but to force it and make it a discipline issue can (some people theorize) make the kid hate school.  When my son got bored with sitting at his desk w/ papers, we made it interesting.  Don't be afraid to do your own thing and stray from the curriculum a little (or mix curriculums) per your child's needs.  Calvert may be very good for a child like that.  When we were using it, we made gingerbread ABC's, he wrote his letters/numbers in that bathtub-safe soap crayon on the tub walls in the bath, he practiced reading/writing in sidewalk chalk outside (we had to walk a short ways to the bike trail, but he appreciated the change of pace sometimes).  You can do all kinds of stuff like this with playdough/clay, fingerpaint, cooking/baking, etc.  For preschool you can also go to www.letteroftheweek.com for free reading curriculum that incorporates everyday life vs. too much seatwork.

prdiva4: My state does have similar requirements for how many hours/days/etc. are spent on each subject, and we followed them sometimes... loosely.  My son is now so far ahead (he's in school this year) that he could probably do fine in the 2nd grade class instead of 1st.  He has bonded w/ his friends and teacher though, and I also don't want him to be exposed to "older kid stuff" any earlier than he has to so, I tell him that when he goes to school and sees his friends, that's more like playtime.  Then when he comes home, I work w/ him (not a full workload, but enough to keep him chugging along instead of not learning anything new).  When he homeschooled (he started at age 3 in a homeschool co-op once a week), by Kindergarden, he loooooved math but never wanted to do any repetitive writing.  So, I let him do more than one lesson in math a day if he wanted.  He still got his writing done.  His swimming lessons counted as PE, although his daily exercise happened in our yard or at freinds' houses.  Another mom and I got together 3x a week to do science and history with our sons.  We would do neat science experiments with them or other types of hands-on lesson-related stuff, and then let them run around outside (or inside when it was too cold) and when they were all tuckered out, they'd get to sit down w/ hot cocoa and marshmallows and listen to a "story" which was really their history lesson.  I never attempted to do all subjects every day in Kindergarten.  Mine don't have the attention span for it.  We just had different focuses on different days, after language arts and math were done.  Sorry for being so long-winded here, can you tell I crave to talk w/ other adults??? *SAHM*
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« Reply #9 on: October 02, 2007, 06:38:06 PM »

WOW!

What great amount of info you ladies gave me here! I GOT EXCITED!

I've been thinking about this and is sounds fun and challenging. I am going to work as hard as I can this next couple of years so that by the time he is Pre-K or Kindergarten I can stay home and homeschool!

I love all this info.... rethinkingpink what is your state?(if you don't mind me asking) YOu don't have to answer if you can't... I reside in California so it'll be interesting checking how are the laws here... YOurs sounds like a great program.
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« Reply #10 on: October 03, 2007, 02:18:48 PM »

I would suggest picking up some books about homeschooling and also doing a Google search (your state + homeschool) for more info.  It is AMAZING how different the laws vary from state to state. Soapbox
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« Reply #11 on: October 03, 2007, 02:20:40 PM »

One book I highly recommend is So You're Thinking About Homeschooling by Lisa Whelchel.  It is a good overview of how lots of different families approach homeschooling.
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« Reply #12 on: October 05, 2007, 02:40:41 PM »

I don't mind.  I think alot of peeps already know I'm in Alaska.  Pretty good state for homeschoolers, if you ask me.  I had a friend that moved to Kansas City, MO for a couple years and there were no programs, no support, nothing.  She was just on her own.  The programs I'm talking about are different than just regular public school correspondence.
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« Reply #13 on: February 04, 2008, 11:04:17 AM »

I know this thread is old but I had an update regarding the ballroom dancing/homeschooling stuff, yippee!!

(Didn't mean to bump this over Rethinking's thread- homeschoolers check out her request for materials)

I decided last fall to try out my idea, and contacted the local homeschooling groups in my city. They have websites where they list all of the extracurricular activities available...all I did was post that I was teaching ballroom dancing for homsechoolers.
OMG - the response has been crazy. I've got 2 full classes of kids already and I've only done 2 sign-ups. Plus, once the parents saw what we were doing, they all wanted to take lessons too! So now I've got a full class of parents!

It got so nuts that I had to start turning people away because I just don't have the time. I only wanted to do this on the side - not make it a 6-days-per-week type of thing. But I'm totally happy because even though I'm charging very small fees, I'm still making pretty good money. For 3 hours per week!!! This beats the crap out of Mary Kay!!!  Pretty soon I'm going to have my own dance troupe of homeschoolers. lol
I set up a website for all of my students, and I take videos of them dancing in class and post them on the site. I hold free parties every 6 weeks so they can dress up and practice all of their steps, and I'm even going to start training some of them in lindy hop, complete with tricks and aerials.

Just had to share!!  woo hoo! :crazy:
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« Reply #14 on: February 04, 2008, 02:46:49 PM »

PC - that is really Cool!  I am not really a newby- just a haven't been around in a while and can't figure out how to log in as myself-be.  ( I was marchioness de timewieze on your blog).

I homeschool my older DS.  He learns History and Geography, and parts of his other core subjects using Switched on Schoolhouse.  This works well because I work very part time and he can come with me and do some work on the computer and then we can go over it at home.  We have known severaly people who have used this and their kids have tested above grade level, when re-entering public or private school.   I am supplementing his science with books and workbooks from Wonders of Creation.  I am hoping to go to the homeschool convention and get a good view of my options.  He takes a kids weightlifting class 2x/wk for his PE, and gets to do really neat electrical science projects at homeschool 4-H (last time they built their own compasses).
I don't homeschool my youngest yet.  He Loves,Loves, Loves pre-k!  He has some special needs (vision and hearing), so it is nice for him to get some extra testing done so we know how to best help him.  He is so different from my oldest that I am sure that we will have to use different approaches and possibly curriculum.
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