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« on: March 18, 2007, 08:06:10 AM »

I wasn't exactly sure where to place this topic so forgive me if it's in the wrong spot.

My 13-year-old daughter is having major problems in 7th grade (middle school) this year.  She's in all Honors classes, is getting terrific grades, has plenty of friends, but is being bullied relentlessly.  The school isn't really doing anything to punish the bully-ers so I need to take matters into my own hands.  To make a long story short, and doing hours of research, I am taking her out of middle school next year and have decided to homeschool her.  I am going to attend an orientation and a seminar in April and May so I can gather all of the information I need to get started.  Since I am a paralegal and will still be going to work every day, she will be doing most of her work during the day and then I will come home and assist her and teach her in the evenings.  I live in Pennsylvania, and since she will be 14 and I will spend at least 50% of my time with her, this is allowable by law.

Does anyone here homeschool their children or have any advice/guidance for me?  I would truly appreciate anything and everything anyone can give me.  Thank you!!   smiley

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« Reply #1 on: March 18, 2007, 09:50:24 AM »

I don't homeschool (unless you count my Rottie!) but it is a big undertaking. There are lots of resources available. Make sure you take advantage of them. It would help to talk to others in your area that are homeschooling as well.

I would only question the time arrangement. Your daughter is going to work on homework and assignments all day, then get taught at night? Sounds like a lot of work. Surely she can't spend the whole day studying and working. What about supervision during the day? Just thinking out loud...



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« Reply #2 on: March 18, 2007, 10:57:33 AM »

I have nieces and nephews who were home-schooled and it worked out well for them. They eventually went to High School, were honor students,  and my 2 nephews are in college now (honor students).

 I would try to find out if there are any "homeschool groups" in your area, maybe put a small inquiry in your local paper or search the internet. I think they could be a good source of information. My sister-in-law was connected with such a group, and they would sometimes attend field trips together.  There was a parent who knew Spanish, and all the kids would go there once a week to be taught; that was nice.

One of the things that makes home-schooling work out well, according to those I have talked to, is that the days should be somewhat "structured", like a regular school day (math is at this time, English is at this time, etc.)  It helps keep the kids on the right track. 

One thing that really concerns me, though, is that the school is not putting a stop to the bullying.  They have an obligation to do so.  I'm sure you have talked to the principal, but have you taken your complaints to the school board?  I don't blame you for wanting to homeschool your daughter.  Let us know how things go.      :bskt
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« Reply #3 on: March 18, 2007, 01:12:26 PM »

Thank you very much for your input.  Believe me, I've thought long and hard about this.  I need to devise some sort of structure and schedule for her regarding planning her day (i.e, Math 10:00-10:45, then read a chapter of a book, take a lunch break, Science and Social Studies an hour each in the afternoon, etc., etc.)  I have gotten in contact with the home schooling association in the major town near my home, as well as contacted the woman "in charge" of home schooling in our school district.  The first orientation I'm going to in April will give me an overview of the law, the requirements for each of us, which curriculum I want her to follow, how to set her schedule, etc.  The second seminar I'm attending in May is going to be attended by book vendors, curriculum experts, "how to" people, etc.  This is going to be a vast undertaking for me, but I feel I don't have a choice. 

As far as the school board is concerned, I have been drafting a letter I want to send to them detailing the trauma my daughter has been through this year and the lack of concern and follow through by the school officials.  I'm sure nothing will come of my complaints, but at least my voice will be heard.

Thanks again.  I'll keep you posted.   smiley
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« Reply #4 on: March 18, 2007, 02:42:33 PM »

Hey Kathy...maybe you could make some arrangement with another person who home schools to keep your daughter on her schedule during the day. She wouldn't be teaching your daughter, but it might be nice for your daughter to have the company. Maybe that's a weird idea. I'm sure it will be majorly helpful to meet some others who are doing this.
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« Reply #5 on: March 18, 2007, 04:03:11 PM »

Kathy, I'm sorry to hear about the bullying.  Even if they've talked to the parent of these kids..it's possible the parents are bullies too.  No help there.  However, I'm pretty sure when you pull her out for homeschooling, the school will lose any state or municipal funding they get for your daughter.  Maybe if their budget takes enough hits, they'll be more concerned with stopping this kind of behaviour.

Anyway, I'm sure this will work out for you.  These seminars will likely provide you with all the answers you need, not to mention enabling you to start networking with other homeschoolers.

Best of luck to you and your daughter.
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« Reply #6 on: March 18, 2007, 05:36:51 PM »

Sounds like you are off to a good start with orientation and the other things you mentioned!  I'm afraid some parents don't do their "homework" like you did, and homeschooling isn't what they thought it would be.

I've seen homeschooling magazines at Hastings (and I'm sure Barnes & Nobles, etc. has them too).   You might pick up a couple and look them over.    smiley
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« Reply #7 on: March 19, 2007, 08:29:09 AM »

Thank you all for your support, ideas, genuine concerns, and well wishes.  It means more to me than you could ever realize.

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« Reply #8 on: March 19, 2007, 09:37:17 AM »

Havurah removed her Perfect Girl after 5th grade for home school.  She is now in 8h grade and we are having a ball. bighug  Of course, I am home with her and that make a difference to geting the work done.  Go for it!   bounce There is nothing going on in the public school that is so beneficial or exclusive that you and she cannot d yourselves.  e-mail me at gbaskir@cox.net if you want to know what we are doing and using. :bskt  In the meantime, I will have fun with the icons.
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« Reply #9 on: March 19, 2007, 11:56:19 AM »

My six year old daughter is going through the same type of bulleying at school, (although hers was on the bus) and I went to the school and they told me to talk to the transportation director, talked to him and he said he couldn't do anything about it and to talk to the parents of the kids.  That didn't work either so I took her off the bus and drive her to and from school.  That helped some, but she too has inquired about homeschooling because of the kids that pick on her.  My husband is totally against it and says she needs to stay in public school, I'm not sure how I feel, I know I don't like her being picked on, but I don't think I could effectively home school her.  She seems to like her classmates and teachers and she is involved in school activities such as cheerleading and girl scouts, so I'm not sure what to do.   I do wish that the school districts would do more about the bullies in the schools that make life terrible for the other kids.
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« Reply #10 on: March 19, 2007, 12:54:16 PM »

NPP -- My heart goes out to you.  It's a tough decision to make, especially when your husband isn't supportive.  That's what surprised me about my husband agreeing to our daughter being home schooled.  He's an ex-Marine, a Mr. Tough Guy, but he knows what a precarious situation we're dealing with (my daughter is also on anti-depressants) and since our daughter is very responsible, he agreed.  I know I've got a rough road ahead of me, but without his support, I couldn't do it.

For your situation, I would go to the school principal again.  There's no excuse for bullying and the district does have a responsibility for the safety of our children.  Good luck to you!! 
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« Reply #11 on: March 19, 2007, 02:35:17 PM »

Oh my Goodness Ladies!   I think that I would just have a hissey fit right there in the principal's office.  I wouldn't care.   I'd just stay on that principal until he/she did something.  Every child deserves to be educated without the fear or intimidation of these bullies. It is your children's right!  The principal and school officials are just as guilty for not doing something about this.

Have you tried writing a letter to the local newspaper? Maybe a local reporter would be interested in your stories?  Bullying is a big issue.  It's even been on the Today Show.

I hate bullies mad3 mad3 mad3.
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« Reply #12 on: March 19, 2007, 06:40:45 PM »

I agree with the Countess!  Kathy and NPP, a call to the local paper may be in order.  Of course, I understand wanting to protect your daughters'  privacy. The paper may agree to run the stories without photos and use pseudonyms, esp. since your daughters are minors. There are surely other children in your school systems who are vicitims and nothing was done about them, either. 

I remember being bullied on the bus once by a much older boy.  I ran into the house crying. The bus meanwhile had a stop down the road from me, it would be making a circle and passing by my house again; this day, Mother was waiting for the bus.  She said that the bus driver asked if he could help her, and she said, I want to talk to this kid right here, and got right in this kid's face. (he wasn't a stranger, we had grown up knowing his family).   I watched from inside the house; I couldn't hear what she said,  but I know that kid got an earful!! giggle    He wasn't allowed to ride the bus any more after that.   Of course, this was years ago.  (Thanks, Mom, you always had my back. Miss you   Love).
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« Reply #13 on: March 21, 2007, 08:35:52 AM »

I wouldn't homeschool just because of a bully problem--I'd consider a school change (or hissy fits, etc.)  But if she would like to be home, I would respect her choice and let her stay home.  I'm going to keep my daughter home with me until she wants to go to school.  She is happy home with me right now, so I'm not sending her to Kindergarten next year.  In my state, kids don't have to attend school until age 8.  Of course, Kindergarten at home is a lot different then Middle School at home.  My best advice would be to let your daughter have a say in what and how she will be learning.
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« Reply #14 on: March 26, 2007, 08:49:08 AM »

kathy - i now I'm waaaay late on this (as usual) but I have some experience here.

I was homeschooled in the 8th grade because the public school environment just got so awful. I begged my mom to stay home. At the time we lived in Ohio, so the laws are different in each state but...it was easy. At that age, she doesn't need much instruction, she can learn on her own if she can read! The math texts that homeschoolers use are so fantastic that they don't require a teacher to do the work. It was so great that when I went back to public school I blew through the math courses and made it through calculus. (this helped me go to engineering school later too)

So it will be beneficial to your daughter not ONLY because it removes the stress and distraction of the yucky middle school environment, but she will probably fly ahead in her studies. She doesn't need to work for 5 hours a day - I literally had "school" for maybe 3 hours each morning. That was it. (and my mom worked part time, so she wasn't with me all day either)

And I am fully prepared to yank my kids out of school in the future should anything like what you describe happen to them. I HATE the public school environment. It is toxic on so many levels.

Have peace knowing you are doing something great for your daughter, and do not stress or worry about the education aspect of it - that always takes care of itself.
I'm so sorry that your girl was being bullied. Half the problems in this world are the direct result of crappy parents.  mad3
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